{"id":22530,"date":"2025-06-12T14:53:15","date_gmt":"2025-06-12T12:53:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.crowdfarming.com\/podcast\/birdsong-is-disappearing-from-our-landscapes-but-why-a-conversation-with-ariel-brunner\/"},"modified":"2026-07-13T13:33:59","modified_gmt":"2026-07-13T11:33:59","slug":"birdsong-is-disappearing-from-our-landscapes-but-why-a-conversation-with-ariel-brunner","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/laruchequiditoui.fr\/what-the-field\/en\/podcast\/birdsong-is-disappearing-from-our-landscapes-but-why-a-conversation-with-ariel-brunner\/","title":{"rendered":"Birdsong is disappearing from our landscapes"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n

Birdsong is disappearing from our landscapes\u2014but why? In the latest episode of What the Field<\/em>, we sit down with Ariel Brunner, Regional Director of BirdLife International<\/a>, to talk about why the dramatic decline in bird populations across Europe is not just a tragedy for nature lovers, but a warning sign for the future of our food systems.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

Drawing from decades of experience in conservation, Ariel explains how industrial agriculture has devastated biodiversity\u2014especially among farmland birds\u2014and how rethinking the way we farm, consume, and organise politically could turn things around. From the disappearance of house martins in southern Spain to the global expansion of monocultures, we unpack how our current food production model is ecologically unsustainable.

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But this isn\u2019t just another story of environmental collapse. Ariel also shares tangible examples of hope: collaborative projects like \u201cOlivares Vivos<\/a>\u201d that restore biodiversity in olive groves, and ways city dwellers can make space for birds even without a garden.

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Ariel Brunner has spent his career fighting for birds and the places they need to survive. As the Regional Director for Europe and Central Asia at BirdLife International, he splits his time between grassroots conservation and the sharp end of Brussels policy. We spoke with him about the collapse of farmland birds, the immense power of the agricultural lobby, and how to bring nature back to both our fields and our cities.<\/em>
Brunner\u2019s connection to wildlife started early, driven by a sense of ecological loss he could already feel as a teenager. Long before he was negotiating environmental directives, he was simply watching the natural world disappear around him.<\/em><\/p>\r\n


You\u2019ve been with BirdLife International for over ten years, but how did you get your start in bird conservation?<\/b>
I\u2019ve been a birdwatcher since I was 10 or 11. My father was an ex-hunter, so I fell in love with nature very early on. By the time I was a teenager, I knew I wanted to dedicate myself to conservation because I could literally see nature slipping away. I studied environmental sciences, worked on classic species protection and reintroduction projects, and eventually moved into policy, legal work, and agriculture. Today, as Regional Director, my job is to help our 46 national organizations across the region pull in the same direction.<\/p>\r\n


For those unfamiliar with the name, what exactly is BirdLife International?<\/b>
It is a global federation of national grassroots organizations focused on conserving birds and nature. People might know SEO\/BirdLife in Spain or the RSPB in the UK. What makes BirdLife unique is that we walk on two legs: one is rigorous science\u2014we always start with what the data is telling us\u2014and the other is local, grassroots action. We represent ordinary, concerned citizens coming together to protect their own communities.
When Brunner looks at the data, the birds aren’t just magnificent creatures\u2014they are ecological alarms.<\/p>\r\n


We are losing birds at an incredible rate. Why are they such a critical indicator of the wider biodiversity crisis?<\/b>
Right now, about one in eight bird species is threatened with extinction. The absolute worst of this crisis is concentrated around industrial agriculture; we have lost 50 to 60% of our farmland birds across Europe in recent decades. Birds are brilliant indicators because they sit near the top of the food chain. If you lose the plants and the insects, the birds that rely on them vanish next. They are also highly visible, deeply studied, and serve as perfect ambassadors for the living world\u2014they are creatures people naturally relate to.<\/p>\r\n


Agriculture is clearly the primary driver here. Has farming always been this destructive, or are we looking at a uniquely modern crisis?<\/b>
We have been reshaping the living world ever since we invented agriculture 10,000 years ago. But the rapid intensification of the last century is completely unprecedented. Nature simply cannot cope with the speed of it. We brought in heavy machinery, massive irrigation schemes, monocultures, and synthetic pesticides\u2014things that essentially didn’t exist for the previous ten millennia. Think of it this way: the sun gives us one photosynthetic “cake,” and the entire biosphere is supposed to eat from it. Today in Europe, humans appropriate between 75% and 90% of that cake, leaving almost nothing for the rest of the living world.
But trying to dismantle a food system built on chemical dependency and endless expansion means running headfirst into fierce political resistance.<\/p>\r\n


If the science is so definitive, why do we keep seeing major policy setbacks, like the failure to ban harmful pesticides?<\/b>
It comes down to the sheer power of the intensive farming lobby, which is probably second only to the fossil fuel industry. You have a very small group of people making massive amounts of money from the status quo, and they pump that money straight back into political capture and propaganda. But beneath the politics, we are all trapped in the current design. Farmers are locked in by debt and business models dictated by banks, meaning they often feel they have no choice but to keep buying chemicals. Consumers are locked in by pricing, corporate monopolies, and the curated choices on supermarket shelves. Systemic change is hard, and the lobbies are masters at playing different groups against each other.<\/p>\r\n


How does BirdLife try to break through that deadlock on the ground?<\/b>
We work at both ends of the problem. At the policy level, we campaign hard against things like the Common Agricultural Policy, which still funnels a third of its massive budget to the top 1.5% of agricultural operators instead of supporting average farmers. But on the ground, we build alternative models to prove change is possible. For example, our partners at SEO\/BirdLife in Spain developed the Olivares Vivos<\/i> (Living Olive Groves) project. Working alongside agronomists and ecologists, they designed a way to grow olive groves with natural plant cover beneath the trees. It massively boosts biodiversity, improves water retention, and controls pests naturally, all while keeping production highly profitable.<\/p>\r\n


For people living in cities, the crisis can feel distant. What can individuals actually do to help?<\/b>
Cities can actually host a surprising amount of biodiversity if we let them. You can make a tangible difference just by installing swift bricks or nest boxes when buildings are renovated. In your garden, plant native species to invite local wildlife back, and embrace “scruffy gardening.” If you let the grass grow instead of letting a robot mower execute every blade of grass, and if you leave some dead wood for woodpeckers and insects, life returns very quickly.
On a larger scale, our diet matters. We simply cannot feed 10 billion people on a Western diet heavy in factory-farmed meat and dairy. If Europeans scaled back to what is actually healthy for them, we would free up tens of millions of hectares of land. That creates the space needed to let natural habitats heal and to transition toward truly sustainable farming.
For all the talk of structural changes and policy shifts, the physical reality of what is disappearing can still catch even veteran conservationists off guard.<\/p>\r\n


What is a moment you’ve witnessed recently that really brought the scale of this crisis home?<\/b>
A recent trip to Do\u00f1ana National Park in southern Spain. I had been there exactly 15 years prior. The most shocking thing wasn\u2019t just that the wetlands were bone dry, but the total silence of the insects. The flowers were blooming, but the buzzing was entirely gone. The massive, intensive berry farms surrounding the park are effectively wiping out life inside it.
Later, staying in the nearby village of El Roc\u00edo, I noticed the sky was empty. House martins had been systematically driven out because people had painted the buildings with a special slick acrylic paint that prevents their mud nests from sticking. These birds bring the spring; they have lived alongside humans for hundreds of years. Yet we used a technological solution to a non-existent problem just to do away with them. It was incredibly painful to see, because it perfectly illustrates our broken relationship with nature\u2014treating it as a nuisance to be scrubbed away, rather than an ally we literally need for our own survival.<\/p>\r\n

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